Entomological labels

We need to find a map of the Saratov province and look at it. It seems that I had a good one somewhere, I'll take a look....

Hello, forumchane!

Who knows where the village of Akhmatovka is (was) located-the estate of Countess Durnovo, it was previously part of the Saratov province, I am interested in the current location of this village, which region it is part of.

or can it be that this village is part of the Rylsky region, Kursk region?!

Or Penza (Nikolsky district)?

Hello, forumchane!

Who knows where the village of Akhmatovka is (was) located-the estate of Countess Durnovo, it was previously part of the Saratov province, I am interested in the current location of this village, which region it is part of.

If Saratovskaya, then Kochetovka was Akhmatovka, about whose estate it is unclear

there are Akmatovka and Akhatovka in the Penza region,

Thank you, but no - this is not the right village. That is probably either in the south of the Saratov region, or in the Volgograd region-the fauna from there is southern for Penza ... I'll look it up in the archives. Thank you again

I found four maps of the Saratov province from different years (I can send them), until I found Akhmatovka. It is not included in the list of localities in Petrovsky and Serdobsky counties.

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/eastern...9747-nm38-2.jpg

and rotationally many other topo-maps, maybe that will find Aleksiej

I assume the following options:
1. The village of Kochetovka in the Atkarsky district used to be called Akhmatovka (source - http://www.saratov-media.ru/ag.php?Month=5...008&Day=7&id=2)

2. EKATERINA GRIGORIEVNA Akimova (1852-1927) was married to P. N. DURNOVO (which means that she had the same surname and was probably the same "Countess of Durnovo"). Her ancestral estate is " Lugovoe village of Petrovsky uyezd, Saratov province "(source http://www.vgd.ru/A/akimov.htm)

From the lists of us. places
Kuznetsky uyezd s-tso Akhmatovka Planskaya volost
Kamyshinsky uyezd s. Akhmat (gift of B. gr.Olsufyev) Akhmat volost.
I haven't looked at the Aktar, Volsky, and Balashovsky counties (I'll look at them tomorrow).
somewhere before 1871, the part that later became Samara Province also belonged to the Saratov province. (the one to the east of the Volga).

The present - day parts of the Samara, Penza, and Volgograd regions formerly belonged to the Saratov Governorate. Regarding the Kamyshinsky uyezd of the village of Akhmat (the gift of b. gr. Olsufyev) Akhmat volost-there I was, the village of staroe, previously had a German name (like Balzer), this is not Akhmatovka ...

the option with "village Lugovoe of Petrovsky uyezd of Saratov province" is tempting - I'll ask around the museum staff. Thank you all very much!

A few years ago, at an entomological meeting, an elderly collector handed out a scoop of old European collections. At one time, he actively bought up old, mostly German collections for himself and for resale. And so I decided to get rid of unnecessary surpluses. He brought a large box and anyone could take whatever they liked from it. I got a few dozen butterflies of very average preservation, but the collections of the middle of the last century are of interest in themselves. Unfortunately, the views were ordinary and I did not waste time arranging them in my collection, but simply put everything in one box and pushed it into the far corner. Five years have passed since then, and yesterday I looked through this box for Polymixis. One label caught my attention. It has Le Moult's name on it. It matches exactly with its labels http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Le_Moult
The strange thing is that the inscription is made as if not in ink, but there are no grooves characteristic of a ballpoint pen from punching either. Maybe it's one of the earliest ballpoint pens. The label with the date is undoubtedly written with a pen. In general, an interesting find.

The strange thing is that the inscription is made as if not in ink, but there are no grooves characteristic of a ballpoint pen from punching either. Maybe it's one of the earliest ballpoint pens.

There was an idea that if you write on not thick paper lying on a hard surface, then there will be no grooves. Now I tried it on a notebook on a polished table. The grooves are almost invisible.
In appearance, the inscription really resembles a ballpoint pen.
Just a collector's label!

There was an idea that if you write on not thick paper lying on a hard surface, then there will be no grooves. Now I tried it on a notebook on a polished table. The grooves are almost invisible.
In appearance, the inscription really resembles a ballpoint pen.
Just a collector's label!

The paper is quite thick, but it is not sagged from the inscription. We can only guess how and when the inscription was made. However, you can compare it with the originals, somewhere in the museum.

Label of the greatest Le Cartoon! Wow!!!

The paper is quite thick, but it is not sagged from the inscription. We can only guess how and when the inscription was made. However, you can compare it with the originals, somewhere in the museum.

It seems to me that the ball is large in diameter, which means that the pressure on the paper could not be large. I remember that not so long ago, in Soviet times, ballpoint pens were written in rather thick lines, not like now.

It seems to me that the ball is large in diameter, which means that the pressure on the paper could not be large. I remember that not so long ago, in Soviet times, ballpoint pens were written in rather thick lines, not like now.

Soviet ballpoint pens "smeared".

And you can do this and that-and the sheep are full and the wolves are gray. Print the filled-in and empty labels on the printer. On the blank page, write the same thing in pencil as on the printed page. Pin the labels back to back, printed on top, written on the bottom. Who will need it in 100 years, will be printed again with some eternal ink.

A few years ago, at an entomological meeting, an elderly collector handed out a scoop of old European collections. At one time, he actively bought up old, mostly German collections for himself and for resale. And so I decided to get rid of unnecessary surpluses. He brought a large box and anyone could take whatever they liked from it. I got a few dozen butterflies of very average preservation, but the collections of the middle of the last century are of interest in themselves. Unfortunately, the views were ordinary and I did not waste time arranging them in my collection, but simply put everything in one box and pushed it into the far corner. Five years have passed since then, and yesterday I looked through this box for Polymixis. One label caught my attention. It has Le Moult's name on it. It matches exactly with its labels http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eug%C3%A8ne_Le_Moult
The strange thing is that the inscription is made as if not in ink, but there are no grooves characteristic of a ballpoint pen from punching either. Maybe it's one of the earliest ballpoint pens. The label with the date is undoubtedly written with a pen. In general, an interesting find.

A cool and romantic story, I think that if you rummage in their stashes, everyone will find something outlandish. Me and the label Kaabak warmer than warm)))

Maybe not the topic, but Kaabak's book "I'm going to look for" is well written, and I really liked it. Decorating my library. And about the label of Le Cartoon - in my opinion, it may be rewritten (remake). You never know what could happen to the original one? Just took and repeated the information, respectively, with a ballpoint pen.

A half-serious question: the other day my cat caught a black calf made from flour crustaceans. And now the question: is it possible to write on the label as a cat collector???
Collector's photo

A half-serious question: the other day my cat caught a black calf made from flour crustaceans. And now the question is: is it possible to write on the label as a cat collector???

No, this is a fishing method: cat fishing.
It happens: in the light, mowing, and you have a cat.
In Asia, cormorants catch fish.

No, this is a fishing method: cat fishing.
It happens: in the light, mowing, and you have a cat.

Not exactly. Cat fishing would be a method of fishing if someone intentionally used a cat as a tool, so to speak, entomological equipment. And here the cat itself caught a black calf, which attracted the attention of a person.

The archive contains my labels (4 files). Made in Corel Draw, the dimensions are adjusted so that you can cut the paper with scissors. Saved everything in version 8, not in curves (you can edit it). The point of using a vector program: you can draw a single label, and then multiply it, placing it on the sheet as you like.

labels_det - my defining labels
labels_micro - labels for micro-lepidoptera (as small as possible, the laser printer prints, read better with a magnifying glass)
labels_geo - standard label for daytime
label_grid - 2 cm, 1-with millimeter divisions (bonus, so to speak)

Not exactly. Cat fishing would be a method of fishing if someone intentionally used a cat as a tool, so to speak, entomological equipment. And here the cat itself caught a black calf, which attracted the attention of a person.

About the fishing method:
Once upon a time in the Crimea, at dusk, many large dragonflies flew low from the ground, a small, nimble cat came and began to catch them performing acrobatic somersaults and bouncing a meter and a half, and I viciously took away the dragonflies caught from him, as a result of which I became the owner of a dozen different rockers in 15-20 minutes.

About the fishing method:
Once upon a time in the Crimea, at dusk, many large dragonflies flew low from the ground, a small, nimble cat came and began to catch them performing acrobatic somersaults and bouncing a meter and a half, and I viciously selected the dragonflies caught from him, as a result of which in 15-20 minutes I became the owner of a dozen different rockers.

And who is listed on the label as a collector???

can someone post pictures of 3 labels, I can't understand the signing principle in any way

what size should they be? for all insects the same or for large large for small-appropriate, maybe there are some standards?

I take it you want everything for free. At least read this.
Dyakov M. Y. How to collect a collection of insects. Moscow, 1996
M. A. Kozlov, E. M. Ninburg 1971 "Your collection (collection and production of zoological collections)"

In my opinion, starting to collect a collection without reading Kozlov, Ninburg is a crime!!!

And Kozlov, Ninburg is on the Shipunov Library.

Collector: And I already gave you a link to the Shipunov library in the topic "Photos of collections".

M. A. Kozlov, E. M. Ninburg 1971 " Your collection (collection and production of zoological collections)"

there is no this book

This book isn't there

Collector, you are completely lazy! It's not true, this book is there. You just need to use the search form. There is a field "Search for titles containing...", in it you need to enter the name of the book you are interested in - and you will be happy. It seemed to me that your generation is much more advanced in using the Internet.

I'm like a separate branch of this generation, well, I didn't find this book, and I don't have time to read
, it would be better just to explain the principle of filling in the software in more detail

Sorry, but if you don't have time to read, so how are you going to "get interested" in entomology?????
Maybe others also have no time to explain the basics twenty times?
I'm still waiting for Dmitrich to break the club of popular anger?

I'm like a separate branch of this generation , well, I didn't find this book, and I don't have time to read
, it would be better just to explain the principle of filling in the software in more detail

You'd better stand in a corner and think. And then silently try again.

Well, I didn't find this book, and I don't have time to read
it,it would be better just to explain the principle of filling in the software in more detail

You can't easily catch a fish out of a sail... You have not only been explained, even cooked, chewed and put in your mouth, it remains only to swallow, but, alas, instead of swallowing you regurgitate ...
P.S. Are you sure that collecting insects is exactly what you would like to do???

yes, but there is no time for these readings, "it would be better just to explain the principle of filling in the software in more detail"

yes, but there is no time for these readings, " it would be better just to explain the principle of filling in the software in more detail "

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Let my stomach drop,
Give me "dough" now, I
'll make "raskolbas",
Teach me how to live beautifully,
I'm tired of your beer,
So what are you silent about?
You're all assholes anyway!...